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I just knew that's what you needed to do to get this thing to work. I was reading, you know, Visual Basic for Applications, this book, but I didn't even know it was a coding book. And I didn't even know what coding was, at the time. And some, okay, it's like a database UI thing, I'm sure whatever. And I heard about this thing called Microsoft Access. So one day, I'm just like looking for solutions. But I just, I couldn't stand this problem anymore. And I didn't know anything about programming or tech or whatever. They had to, you know, pass these drug tests, and so we'd be like, taking in 2000 people a day, sometimes filling out their names or paperwork on a piece of paper. I mean, before that, as a kid, I did games and mess around and fiddled, you know, like any kid does, but really, in 2007, I was a regional manager at a drug testing company, you know, but like, like now where we tested drugs, like, no, it was like, we were testing people for drugs, like, you know, they would go to prison, and if they wanted to get out, you know, and stay out. And I relate this story a lot to my students, but it was 2007. So this is a it's a really good question. So I kind of want to go back in time a bit and hear about how you first got into tech. But first, is there anything that you would like to add to that introduction before we get into the interview?

I really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to come on and chat about everything you're doing at Udemy and Dev Slopes. Hey, Mark, thank you so much for coming on the show.

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Moreover, Mark is the CEO of the learn to code startup Dev Slopes. He's also the creator of a top selling online iOS course on Udemy called iOS 11, and Swift 4: From Beginner to Paid Professional. Mark price is a mobile app developer and entrepreneur who's built over 57 apps for iOS and Android. If you want to check Dev Slopes out, please consider using my special affiliate link, if you end up joining, I'll get a tiny commission for referring you and this will go towards the cost of running Learn to Code With Me. This means you can really retain what you've learned and build an impressive portfolio within weeks. At Dev Slopes, you learn to code by building real world apps and games. Dev Slopes is Mark's learn to code startup, which you'll hear more about in the interview. If you enjoy this interview, you might want to check out Dev Slopes. What defines a successful app in today's world, and how he began teaching online and ultimately starting Dev Slopes. We talk about how he got into tech and later mobile app development. In today's episode, I talk with Mark price, a mobile app developer, top Udemy instructor, and now CEO of Dev Slopes, a learn to code startup.

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